This week, as you're doing your usual perusing through the Weekly's music section, you should come across a story penned by yours truly about the scrappy upstart indie label La Chupacabra Records out of Placentia.Hanging out in front of a Starbucks in their native P-town, I sat down to discuss the finer points of starting a regional label with founders Alex Ahmadi, Tyler Jacobs ( both pictured) and Lucas Drake, resident sound engineer and keyboardist of two La Chupacabra bands: The Living Suns and My Pet Saddle.
Though you'll definitely get a feel for how this label started by a couple 18-year-olds managed to snag some of the most popular bands in Orange County and Long Beach (The Living Suns, My Pet Saddle, The Growlers, Audacity, and Gestapo Khazi), there's defintely more to learn about these guys. Hence, this little scrap of Q&A with the LA Chupacabra crew. Our afternoon conversation tackled everything from a “how to” on producing a regional aesthtic for a label to photocopying gig fliers. Check it out.
OC Weekly: Talk a
little bit about what inspired you to start a record label.
Alex Ahmadi: Well,
we're big fans of 80s underground and stuff as well as what's going on around
here now. For me, and I know for Tyler a little bit, it was part of like Sub Pop
indies and Touch and Go, and even as far back as Motown, all the regional labels
really appealed to me. And we're from here, and we thought it would be cool for
someone to do a regional label.
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OCW: Were you
encouraged by guys like Lucas Drake of The Living Suns to start the label?
AA: Yeah, what
happened was
and I had planned on starting a label, then Lucas called us up because he knew
about our plan and he had talked to Mike from Gestapo Khazi and he wanted to do
something similar, so we decided to just blend the two ideas and do it under
one record label. So it was kind of the blending of two ideas.
OCW: What were some
of the perceived challenges you guys had when you were preparing to start the
label and how has that matched up so far with what you've actually encountered?
AA: For me, it
was a lot about the designing. There's a lot more that goes into the designing
then I thought.
Tyler Jacobs: With
starting up the record label it was really the finances at some points, being
college students. But the whole image was a difficult part to get over and to
find what we think would fit our idea.
OCW: In terms of the
bands right now, you're working with The Living Suns, My Pet Saddle, Gestapo
Khazi, The Growlers and Audacity correct?
AA: Well those
are all the bands we're working with right now. In the future we talked to Sons
at Sea, made up of a few members from Great Glass Elevator, it's their new
band. They were supposed to play at that charity show but someone in the band
got sick. But we plan on doing something with them and also we got Death Hymn
Number 9, we'll being some stuff with them as well.
OCW: Is the plan to
have the bands record their own stuff and then have you distribute it?
AA: So far three
of the bands have recorded with Lucas, Audacity, My Pet Saddle and Living Suns
did. Gestapo Khazi and The Growlers are doing their own recordings. But in the
future we're thinking about getting them all in the studio to record with Lucas
just so they all have a pretty similar sound. That's what Sub Pop did as well
as Motown, they had label producers and stuff.
OCW: What is a
mission or a goal in terms of getting more exposure for local bands?
AA: We want to
expose them a little bit more. We're trying to get the best
bands, bring them together and expose them. We know if we bring them all
together, then they can get more attention for Orange County and the scene as a
whole than they can by themselves, that's the way its always been since Motown
and Sub Pop, those regional labels are the ones that explode, the ones with the
uniform sound.
OCW: What was it like
to be able to pull that show off at eVocal?
AA: We were
pretty happy. I talked to a few people and they said they had never seen that
many people at eVocal. I know it's not that big a club anyway, but it was sold
out so that was pretty awesome. They wouldn't even let anybody back in for a
while, even us, they said there were too many people in there. It was exciting.
OCW: As far utilizing
7″ split vinyls for the bands on the label, do you feel that is part of
appealing to the fans you are marketing to? Is it something the bands
suggested?
AA: It was something we were interested in doing,
also Mike, from Gestapo Khazi, he had an idea as well. We had different
pairings for the splits but we kinda compromised and ended up with all the
splits which is Audacity and The Growlers, The Growlers and My Pet Saddle, My
Pet Saddle and The Living Suns, and The Living Suns and Gestapo Khazi. We just
tried to have each band have a kind of similar quality or trait that.
TJ: It's a simple
way to put out singles without using the whole 7″ for a band. You could put out
the 7″ split just give one side to a band and make it a lot more cohesive and
not so financially straining.
OCW: What are some skills that you are learning on the job now as you
are developing this label?
TJ: Getting better with computers. We've been doing everything by
hand. The flyer was cut out, we just photo copied it and I mean that's time
consuming and just overall design, just making it the same image.
AA: We've been doing shirts for all the bands as well and we never
dabbled in fashion before, I mean its just t-shirts but we never even thought
about designing t-shirts really. So doing that was tough. We also studied the
subject, we don't have any practical knowledge of it but we've studied the
subject and we have a pretty good idea of what we're doing. There are reasons
for everything we do
OCW: What are some of the main things an average person should know
before starting a record label, things that maybe you didn't know?
TJ: I've never thought about that since we've started. Every
obstacle we've come to, we've tackled. We've never stopped to think about it.
AA: Pick strong local bands so you can help each other out. Because
their name will help give you a little bit of credit and then you can push
their name and then you get credit. If you
pick the right bands that are original and have quality songs, then the
bands have to have something original to offer.
TJ: Just staying original but keep the quality.
OCW: Lucas, as the resident engineer or the label and a band member
signed with the label, what are some things you look for when you're helping to
create the records of the bands you're working with?
Lucas Drake: It's hard because I'm trying to balance a couple
things when recording the bands because the sound, did they tell you about
having the uniform sound? It's kinda hard because you have a lot of different
bands coming in. You have Audacity and then Saddle and Living Suns and those
are all three completely different sounding bands. I guess Saddle and Suns are
similar because they both have rock n roll influences but you've gotta find a
sound that everyone can use.
I'm just learning how to blend that right now.
It's a combination of mainly analog and some digital overdubs and not too much
mixing, just letting things sit the way they record. And I think there is some
sort of continuity between all the recordings at this point. They all have a
similar vibe, it's really raw, and it's really lively. All the shit was
recorded live, it's all tape, and it's all done in three to four takes.
It's pretty quick, pretty old school.
We didn't spend a lot of time overdubbing or doing all this shit. There's no
post production, everything's done beforehand. We spend hours and hours
listening to the drums and moving mics around, listening to the guitars and
changing tones and sample record one part of the song and listen to everything.
OCW: Are all the releases still slated for August at this point? Any days
scheduled in particular?
AA: No not yet, we're still trying to decide between whether to get
the highest quality mastering or doing it here, we're not sure if we want to
use the big dogs or just keep it local. And we're still just getting all the
recordings together from the bands because the bands were really busy because
they bands obviously are popular and going to shows all over the place and we
knew that if we wanted to get those good recordings, we needed to wait a little
bit.
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